I’m the one arguing for an R-rating here, in case ya missed it.

And I’ve seen it too, several times in different forms. It’s hard to explain why I think it’s borderline PG-13 without spoiling, but I don’t think slit wrists in and of themselves are an automatic R. I see movies for a living — that gives me a pretty good idea of what does and doesn’t make the cut for a rating. PG-13 can be pretty lenient, especially if you don’t have any sex or drugs in the movie.

As for the gore — let me put it this way. Alien versus Predator was PG-13, and was full of violence. But the actual damage to humans was cut very carefully, and the really disgusting stuff involved monster blood.

The MPAA is of course subjective, which is part of the problem; they have no consistent standards. But if you think I’m in favor of cutting a movie to attain a lower rating, you’re misreading me. If you think I want a friend’s project to come out as anything less than their vision, you do me a disservice.

I’m really glad to hear you reacted the way you did to the movie, though, and hope that more people will feel the same way when it comes out.

Anyway — the director wants us to stop talking about it. I’ll abide by that until he tells me otherwise.

ive seen the woods, and it is simply NOT PG-13 matieral. the best scenes involve intense gore and mutilation. they arent the best scenes because of the gore, thats just an element in them that adds greatly to their intensity.

this film is one of the very few that has ever made me feel personally in danger for my well being. i broke out in sweat watching it during a few scenes and that never happens to me. i was actually scared during the film, and without the gore it simply loses a lot of that.

furthermore, the gore happens in scenes that are essental to the plot. the slit wrist scene is important and still seared into my head. the head chopings…did you see the movie? none of that is pg-13!

anyway, i can do a full review for you of the cut i saw if you wish. but stop saying its already almost pg13, its a hard R, and a damn good film, dont foster its bastardization!

ps. sorry, i didnt realize i could post a comment on the update…i thought i had to do it on the message boards…so, its posted there too.

pps. ill write a review of the cut i saw if you wish.

It might be a joke, but it led me to find out about the movie.

Tom

I hate to be an old craghead, but I really wish everyone would shut the hell up about this. I think it’s damaging to the film and until something conclusive happens all talk like this does is fuel the fire and give ideas to people that don’t really need them right now. It is a crucial time, figuring out the appropriate way to put this film out and I really wish everyone one would learn a little patience…lord knows mine has been tried over this process…more than any of you could possibly know…I love the film and love that you all are into it enough to talk about it, but I’m really ask for PATIENCE on your part and FAITH in my ability to make the right decisions in order to get it out to all of you as quickly as I possibly can…So much of this supposed “news” that’s being reported the last couple weeks is RUMORS not TRUTH…I told Bloody Disgusting that I would gladly report something to them when I knew something conclusive, but they’ve seen fit to write articles anyway and grill my friends about it. This is not good journalism. Have a little more respect guys…

Best…

Lucky

those US censors are really up their own firecrotches.