Comments on: My Grandfather’s Column http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/ The official website of Luke Y. Thompson Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:29:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: offpat http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14851 offpat Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:40:58 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14851 if they are into banning then they are not truly liberal- that's failry simple so to talk about my comment about 'challenging' nastiness and take it to 'banning' - that's a non liberal thought process typically shown by those who have a basic right wing position. if they are into banning then they are not truly liberal- that’s failry simple

so to talk about my comment about ‘challenging’ nastiness and take it to ‘banning’ – that’s a non liberal thought process typically shown by those who have a basic right wing position.

]]> By: LYT http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14850 LYT Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:41:11 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14850 Interesting points made by Pat -- but I don't think in general that the left is as extreme as the right when it comes to vocal positions. There isn't really any "name" pundit on the left who says right-wingers should all be thrown in jail and/or executed, or calls them "fags" the way Ann Coulter does. You can dig up obscure professors like Ward Churchill, but few take him seriously, and in any case he got fired. As for PC, it is overstated for sure, but I will say that it cost my father a university job back in '89. At that time, though, it was a weird alliance of prudish feminists and prim righty Christians who pretty much agreed on hypersensitive notions of "sexism." Interesting points made by Pat — but I don’t think in general that the left is as extreme as the right when it comes to vocal positions. There isn’t really any “name” pundit on the left who says right-wingers should all be thrown in jail and/or executed, or calls them “fags” the way Ann Coulter does. You can dig up obscure professors like Ward Churchill, but few take him seriously, and in any case he got fired.

As for PC, it is overstated for sure, but I will say that it cost my father a university job back in ‘89. At that time, though, it was a weird alliance of prudish feminists and prim righty Christians who pretty much agreed on hypersensitive notions of “sexism.”

]]> By: David N. Scott http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14849 David N. Scott Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:33:24 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14849 Well, whether or not we should ban 'nastiness' and what defines 'nastiness' is rather the question, isn't it? Well, whether or not we should ban ‘nastiness’ and what defines ‘nastiness’ is rather the question, isn’t it?

]]> By: offpat http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14848 offpat Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:09:15 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14848 the arguments that I see online in the USA are travesties of both true Liberal and Conservative positions. - Mainly because both "sides" in the political arena tend towards trying to impress with how extreme they can be - in order to get noticed. Then the younger generation always want to shortcut things and refer to their own private arguments - no true worldly perspective as a result. my old man concentrates on the godly side - but he's really talking about the same politics as we all do over here, in the only way he can for that village magazine. One of the great myths I see the vocal right putting about is the "enforcement of political correctness" by liberals - actually it is only ever the challenging of nastiness in my experience. the arguments that I see online in the USA are travesties of both true Liberal and Conservative positions. – Mainly because both “sides” in the political arena tend towards trying to impress with how extreme they can be – in order to get noticed. Then the younger generation always want to shortcut things and refer to their own private arguments – no true worldly perspective as a result.

my old man concentrates on the godly side – but he’s really talking about the same politics as we all do over here, in the only way he can for that village magazine.
One of the great myths I see the vocal right putting about is the “enforcement of political correctness” by liberals – actually it is only ever the challenging of nastiness in my experience.

]]> By: LYT http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14847 LYT Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:44:36 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14847 Sorta, but not quite. Blog comments get added at the bottom, same as with most blogs. The message board, however, is different. Active topics stay at the top in each category. Sorta, but not quite.

Blog comments get added at the bottom, same as with most blogs.

The message board, however, is different. Active topics stay at the top in each category.

]]> By: Crid http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14846 Crid Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:40:21 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14846 And while I'm here... This is a blog-ops question, not a criticism or political comment of any kind. It's just to get a sense of the state of the art. Aside from this commetn stack, your blog has a forum in which recent comments always show at the top, no matter how old the first comment was, right? Why isn't that sort of the standard way of doing business for all comment systems on the web? Fifteen years ago, BBS's seemed to have evolved ways of dealing with this stuff. Either that or we users were more fanatic about how to get at the stuff of interest. And while I’m here… This is a blog-ops question, not a criticism or political comment of any kind. It’s just to get a sense of the state of the art.

Aside from this commetn stack, your blog has a forum in which recent comments always show at the top, no matter how old the first comment was, right? Why isn’t that sort of the standard way of doing business for all comment systems on the web?

Fifteen years ago, BBS’s seemed to have evolved ways of dealing with this stuff. Either that or we users were more fanatic about how to get at the stuff of interest.

]]> By: Crid http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14845 Crid Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:36:28 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14845 > liberal theology versus conservative I herewith issue a Full Litella. (That's an SNL thing. You may be too young) Us Godless types tend to view religious squabbles as nunna-ar beeswax. But one of the best things about religion (for all of us) is that it constrains people's behavior. > When was the last time... Well, there was no gunplay, but last time I mentioned voting for Bush in '04 there was an oppressive silence. Does that count? > liberal theology versus conservative

I herewith issue a Full Litella. (That’s an SNL thing. You may be too young)

Us Godless types tend to view religious squabbles as nunna-ar beeswax. But one of the best things about religion (for all of us) is that it constrains people’s behavior.

> When was the last time…

Well, there was no gunplay, but last time I mentioned voting for Bush in ‘04 there was an oppressive silence. Does that count?

]]> By: LYT http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14844 LYT Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:48:33 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14844 He's talking about liberal <i>theology</i> versus conservative, but while we're on the subject... When was the last time a liberal kept you from saying something you wanted to say? He’s talking about liberal theology versus conservative, but while we’re on the subject…

When was the last time a liberal kept you from saying something you wanted to say?

]]> By: Crid http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14843 Crid Thu, 03 Aug 2006 03:24:57 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14843 > exactly what liberalism is > about - being liberated. If only! Liberalism is all about constraining people nowadays. Telling them what language to use and what they can do with their money... Or what 3rd parties can do with it. Religious devotion causes a tiny, tiny fraction of the conservative resistance to modern liberal politics. > exactly what liberalism is
> about – being liberated.

If only! Liberalism is all about constraining people nowadays. Telling them what language to use and what they can do with their money… Or what 3rd parties can do with it.

Religious devotion causes a tiny, tiny fraction of the conservative resistance to modern liberal politics.

]]> By: David N. Scott http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column-32/comment-page-1/#comment-14842 David N. Scott Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:26:24 +0000 http://www.lytrules.com/blog/2006/07/31/my-grandfathers-column/#comment-14842 SOme good thoughts here... SOme good thoughts here…

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