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Um. no.

Um. no.

Um. no.

Aaargh. I'm adding more RAM soon, I promise.

Normally I delete duplicate posts, but I like the effect here.

NOPE.

MarioGeorgeNitrini111
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I still can't get over the fact that certain commercial advertisers after all these years that they are using both the Beatles and John Lennon songs. Especially, Lennon's music which were meant to be counter-capitalism....

re: lennon's music in advertising, you can thank yoko for that. meanwhile, any decent true life lennon documentary gets supressed by her in favor of fluffy propaganda pieces.

lame.

i really like yoko's old experimental music, but of course she can't sell any of that.

re: nirvana's music in a video game, also lame. but i find myself caring about these things less and less. it's kinda all-pervasive. walls of noise, zero context. and of course i am ready and willing to sell out to the highest bidder at any moment. greenbacks, jack, i'm hyperventilating over here.

i wish to formally announce that my back catalogue is for sale. iconography just screaming to be branded. cut-rate prices.

i sold MOTEL, GLIMPSE to a guy on the corner last night for fifteen bucks. he said he was doing me a favor.

As for the Beatles' music in ads, blame Michael Jackson, who owned the catalogue rights for a while.

Remember Bob Seger's LIKE A ROCK (Chevy)? As I recall, there was quite a stink about that.

MarioGeorgeNitrini111

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The main issue here is that it's baseball, as Cobain despised the whole sports meathead mentality, and I don't believe that ever would have changed. But I'm not sure that he wouldn't be licensing music for other uses. Industry's changed and the nature of fans have changed... Kurt was a very smart man, who signed to a major after his first album so that he wouldn't have to sleep on couches and under bridges any more, and to be able to afford better equipment to do what he does. He was an artist who wanted to eat. The few people who would feed him before his face was on MTV were corporations. He sold some to them and kept some for himself. He wrote and sang and talked about it consistently. He went on MTV and Rolling Stone, but was smart enough to mock them while taking their money and exposure, even in the first song and video that made him famous and rich.

As for Lennon, it depends on what songs. Jackson did buy up most of The Beatles' catalog, but since his financial troubles started, he's had to part with a good chunk of it. Yoko inherited some of it. It is my belief that in Yoko's case, John would want Yoko to do whatever it took for her to make sure that she and Sean would be able to live comfortably and to maintain his estate and pay all the people it takes to maintain that estate... he loved his wife and their son more than his music. Kurt left rather abruptly, but since Courtney's a mess, and he knew it before he died, I also believe he might make a concession if he knew his daughter would be able to live happily in his absence, to have the potential for a happier existence than his own, since Courtney can't seem to make that happen on her own. And especially it was Kurt Cobain, and not anyone else, who did not take the time to make a will before April 1994, when he and everyone else knew from the start what Courtney's mission in life was and she never hid or lied about it.

As I said in the Manson posts, sometimes there's a lot more going on when people sign their name to something, or in the very complaints about said signings, than most people take the time to think about. If you *really* care about not wanting to hear Kurt Cobain songs in commercials, then support Courtney Love's solo works. If her own stuff was selling better than Nirvana, then that's what she'd be hocking, because she loves herself more than anything. In 2007, besides that mission that has not changed, she also has a teenaged daughter to make a life for, and she's right to make sure that Frances, daughter of Kurt Cobain will still have something left over from herself, since everyone else but Kurt Cobain is making money from his pain.

If you don't want to hear John Lennon songs in commercials, buy Yoko's and Sean's albums, with as much enthusiasm as you buy rehashed Beatle box sets, which a lot more people are making money on in shadier ways than Yoko possibly licensing a track to a commercial. Only she knows what John Lennon would have wanted, and I finding myself trusting that, just as I trust that Dave Grohl and Chris Novoselic are still acting with the same intergrity they shared with their former bandmate, when Foo Fighters songs appear in commercials or when Chris is before The Senate. They haven't changed. The industry and the fans have changed, and who can blame them for making sure their kids are going to eat long after you've gone on to the Next Big Thing? Some for you, some for themselves. It goes on.

It's dangerous stuff to imply that you know what a dead man might want if you haven't intently studied the nature and patterns of his business and life when he was alive. Both men, I have read just about every book there is to read, every interview, have most of their recordings, been in rooms where they rehearsed and recorded, seen contracts they've signed and touched instruments they played, and talked face to face with people who knew them well... and I still don't know a damned thing about what either would have wanted, but I learned enough to know that it's not what you believe were their desires for themselves and their families. That's all myths, that ironically, you bought into through the media, corporations... to sell you more product.

Strawberry Fields. Nothing is real.

and in my book BOB SEGER IS F*ING AWESOME.

i am still working on my night moves.

Forgot to add, that by buying more Sean and Yoko, and even McCartney, Harrison and Ringo solo works for that matter, then they'll have a lot more money to be able to negotiate buying back what was sold when they were less mindful of their business, and thus, will have more control over what gets used, when and how.

Kurt Cobain licensing makes more money than Elvis now, apparently. Seems counter-intuitive considering how many things you see Elvis' face on, but it's true. I don't think Novoselic and Grohl have any say in whether or not Nirvana songs play on commercials. They only got say over the box set because Courtney agreed to it.

"she loves herself more than anything." So you've no idea what Kurt would want, but you know this for a fact about Courtney?

Jaye, is there a point where you'd not support a song being sold - let's say the Pat Buchanan for President campaign wants to license a Nirvana song, and Courtney wants the money. She has the right, but would that sit just fine with you?

Or even better - let's say Rush Limbaugh wants to use a Nirvana song as a buffer on his radio show. Rush, who once called Kurt "A worthless shred of human debris" on the day he died.

These are of course extreme hypotheticals, and if we were talking about, say, NYSNC, who never took controversial stands on anything, it'd be a different story.

"That's all myths, that ironically, you bought into through the media, corporations... to sell you more product."

Like a Radio-Friendly Unit Shifter, you mean?

Incidentally, I'm not absolutely opposed to licensing. But a Major League Baseball video game?

Oh, and one final thing, I promise... Yoko oversees a number of philantrhropic organizations in both hers and John's names, and chunks of the cash she earns from Lennon's estate goes back into helping other young songwriters and visual artists, preserving historical landmarks related to his early years, and helping other people in need. I'm pretty sure John Lennon might be cool with having some songs in a commercial to make sure the traveling John Lennon Songwriters Contest, it's legion of vans and equipment and related organizations could operate and do what he's not here to do.

Courtney has said so much many times, about her narcissism and has readily admitted to the fact that all she wanted was to be rich and famous, to the point where she made lists of who what famous people were her goal to befriend, that she would marry a rock star, and she paid money to have her lineage traced to find out if there was royal blood and to confirm what other famous people she was related to. No guess work needed on her intent. She's alive and well and can currently be seen cavorting around with Paris Hilton.

I already said the only issue here was that baseball was involved, since it's something Kurt was very open about... he was someone who's personality and the experiences he wrote about was grately shaped by being one of the few non-sports meatheads in Washington state. He also had a problem with homophobes, racists and people who had testosterone overdrive and chauvinistic tendencies, so again, the Buchanan and Limbaugh examples I would say the same. It's about the personal ethics that were never compromised in his lifetime. However, both Cobain and Lennon signed contracts with corporations in their lifetime, and did work for corporations, so I'm saying there can't be a blanket expectation and assumption that there would never have been any other types of licensing just because it's corporate-related. It's that it's baseball that bothers me, nothing more, the irony that that particular song was used for baseball, gets my panties in a knot.

"Radio-Friendly Unit Shifter"... exactly. "In Utero" is the only thing that needs to be consulted for this issue. He's telling you every thing I just told you. "Not above taking money from a corporation, as long as I get to say what I need to say, and no one edits me to make me sound like I said something different than what I said." He worked for a corporation, but never championed sports culture, nor ultra-conservatives, and that's where the difference lies.

A while ago (I still have it on my TiVo), Chris Isaak was on Craig Ferguson's show. He said that early in his career, his band had a steady gig at this one bar. But the owner came to him and said "You know, the crowd doesn't like your music. Play some oldies."

He said that his band figured he'd take a stand, say "No way! I'm going to play my songs! I've got the integrity of my vision!" He told Craig that he said "Yes, sir. Whatever you say, sir!" He said "I'm a complete sell-out. I'd pitch Camels for kids. 'They're smaller, for little hands.'"

Then he went on to say that he would play his songs, and just tell the audience that they were 'old classics'. The bar owner was happy, he exposed his music to the crowd--what could be better?

Yeah, on second thought, Jaye's right.

And, much like Justin, I'm very available for sellouts if anyone's interested.

;)

Hey Justin Stone's Creekbed,

Still workin on those night moves Huh?

Good Luck. Maybe a "POT OF GOLD" for you at the end of the rainbow>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL.

MarioGeorgeNitrini111
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To jump in:

In theory, I think Cobain's music should be left alone, it seems there's a place for it and that's in the cd's I own, not pumping up video games, target commericials, computer devices, etc..... but I think it's fair to agree with Jaye on this one...

1) I have no idea what Cobain wanted for himself.
2) I have no idea what Cobain wanted for his kid.
3) I have no idea what Cobain wanted for Courtney.
4) I have no idea what Cobain wanted for his bandmates.

You can say "Well I heard or read a piece where Cobain said this or that.." Well that was more than 10 years ago and by golly you have to assume he woulda "caved" or ateast released on or two.. Don't you? Do you really think he woulda stuck to his guns even when he would been in the "Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame" etc.. etc.. Highly unlikely.